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< p > "You Guys!" was an insult. But this expression was transformed into a term
of endearment, in America, by the working class. Because that is what the
working class do.< / p >
< h3 > Gunpowder Plot< / h3 >
< p > You are probably familiar with the
< a href = "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunpowder_Plot" target = "_blank" > Gunpowder Plot< / a > ,
in which < a href = "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_Fawkes" target = "_blank" > Guy Fawkes< / a > ,
attempted to blow up Parliament on 5 November 1605.< / p >
< p > And thus, because Guy Fawkes was reviled for his crime, the expression "You Guys" emerged
as an insult.< / p >
< h3 > Norman Conquest< / h3 >
< p > But how did an Englishman come by the names "Guy", and "Fawkes"?
According to Wikipedia,
< a href = "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fawkes" target = "_blank" > Fawkes is a name of Norman-French origin< / a > .< / p >
< p > Well now. It just so happens that the
< a href = "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Conquest" target = "_blank" > Normans invaded and conquered England in 1066< / a > ,
an event from which the history of English Nobility ever since can be traced.< / p >
< h3 > Guy of Nantes< / h3 >
< p > And yet more than a half century before the Normans even
< a href = "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normandy#Viking_period" target = "_blank" > settled in Normandy< / a > ,
which they would not do until the middle of the 9th Century,
(from where they would later sail across the English Channel and conquer England),
< a href = "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_of_Nantes" target = "_blank" > Guy of Nantes< / a >
was Count of Nantes, as of 778, which was of course the late 8th Century,
the < a href = "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/County_of_Nantes" target = "_blank" > County of Nantes< / a >
being located next door to what was not yet Normandy nor inhabited by Normans,
and Guy (of the Guideschi Family), not being Norman but Frankish of descent.< / p >
< p > Well, that was awkward.< / p >
< h3 > Breton Peninsula Geography< / h3 >
< p > So who was Guy, who were the Guideschi, and why were they occupying a small principality
in between what are today Normandy and Brittany in the NorthWest corner of France?< / p >
< p > If you will recall that Charlemagne became King of the Franks in 768, but he was never able
to conquer the
< a href = "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brittany" target = "_blank" > Breton Peninsula< / a > ,
because the terrain was too rough. Thus he appointed
Guy's father < a href = "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roland" target = "_blank" > Roland< / a > as
Count of Nantes, intending for the County of Nantes to be a buffer zone of containment
protecting the Carolingian Empire from the inhabitants of the Breton Peninsula, (who
could not be conquered on account of the rough terrain).< / p >
< h3 > Excile to Italy< / h3 >
< p > Anyway, one thing led to another. Guy's son
< a href = "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lambert_I_of_Nantes" target = "_blank" > Lambert< / a >
had a falling-out with Charlemagne's son
< a href = "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_the_Pious" target = "_blank" > Louis the Pious< / a > ,
which resulted in the Guideschi Family being exciled to Italy.< / p >
< p > And then in 834 Lambert was given the
< a href = "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duchy_of_Spoleto" target = "_blank" > Duchy of Spoleto< / a > ,
even though he was exciled, and the Guideschis firmly ensconsed themselves in the
chaos and intrigue of what at that time passed for statecraft in Italy.< / p >
< h3 > Conclusion< / h3 >
< p > In conclusion I really have no idea where I was going with all this, but
thanks for reading all the way to the end, you guys!< / p >
< p > Here's a
< a href = "https://wittenbergtowestphaliapodcast.weebly.com/blog/episode-16-hey-guy" target = "_blank" > podcast about the Guideshi< / a > .< / p >
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