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<p>"You Guys!" was an insult. But this expression was transformed into a term
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of endearment, in America, by the working class. Because that is what the
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working class do.</p>
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<h3>Gunpowder Plot</h3>
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<p>You are probably familiar with the
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<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunpowder_Plot" target="_blank">Gunpowder Plot</a>,
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in which <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_Fawkes" target="_blank">Guy Fawkes</a>,
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attempted to blow up Parliament on 5 November 1605.</p>
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<p>And thus, because Guy Fawkes was reviled for his crime, the expression "You Guys" emerged
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as an insult.</p>
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<h3>Norman Conquest</h3>
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<p>But how did an Englishman come by the names "Guy", and "Fawkes"?
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According to Wikipedia,
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<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fawkes" target="_blank">Fawkes is a name of Norman-French origin</a>.</p>
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<p>Well now. It just so happens that the
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<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Conquest" target="_blank">Normans invaded and conquered England in 1066</a>,
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an event from which the history of English Nobility ever since can be traced.</p>
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<h3>Guy of Nantes</h3>
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<p>And yet more than a half century before the Normans even
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<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normandy#Viking_period" target="_blank">settled in Normandy</a>,
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which they would not do until the middle of the 9th Century,
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(from where they would later sail across the English Channel and conquer England),
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<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_of_Nantes" target="_blank">Guy of Nantes</a>
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was Count of Nantes, as of 778, which was of course the late 8th Century,
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the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/County_of_Nantes" target="_blank">County of Nantes</a>
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being located next door to what was not yet Normandy nor inhabited by Normans,
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and Guy (of the Guideschi Family), not being Norman but Frankish of descent.</p>
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<p>Well, that was awkward.</p>
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<h3>Breton Peninsula Geography</h3>
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<p>So who was Guy, who were the Guideschi, and why were they occupying a small principality
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in between what are today Normandy and Brittany in the NorthWest corner of France?</p>
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<p>If you will recall that Charlemagne became King of the Franks in 768, but he was never able
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to conquer the
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<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brittany" target="_blank">Breton Peninsula</a>,
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because the terrain was too rough. Thus he appointed
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Guy's father <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roland" target="_blank">Roland</a> as
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Count of Nantes, intending for the County of Nantes to be a buffer zone of containment
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protecting the Carolingian Empire from the inhabitants of the Breton Peninsula, (who
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could not be conquered on account of the rough terrain).</p>
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<h3>Excile to Italy</h3>
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<p>Anyway, one thing led to another. Guy's son
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<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lambert_I_of_Nantes" target="_blank">Lambert</a>
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had a falling-out with Charlemagne's son
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<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_the_Pious" target="_blank">Louis the Pious</a>,
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which resulted in the Guideschi Family being exciled to Italy.</p>
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<p>And then in 834 Lambert was given the
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<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duchy_of_Spoleto" target="_blank">Duchy of Spoleto</a>,
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even though he was exciled, and the Guideschis firmly ensconsed themselves in the
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chaos and intrigue of what at that time passed for statecraft in Italy.</p>
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<h3>Conclusion</h3>
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<p>In conclusion I really have no idea where I was going with all this, but
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thanks for reading all the way to the end, you guys!</p>
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<p>Here's a
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<a href="https://wittenbergtowestphaliapodcast.weebly.com/blog/episode-16-hey-guy" target="_blank">podcast about the Guideshi</a>.</p>
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